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everything in obama care that obama didn't want you to focus on or think about, the 90% of his trillion dollar tax increase was pushed over until after he got himself safely re-elected. all those regulations you're now hearing about, ok, that are being talked about, those all hit after the election. we got four bad years of regulation taxes. he wants to add higher taxes to that. tea party two will dwarf tea party one if obama pushes us off the cliff. let's not pretend he isn't pushing us off the cliff. >> maria, the broader question, where is our economy right now as we're tackling this issue? what's the economy doing well? what's it not doing as well? and what will we see over the next four years? >> we are moving at a slow pace. at this point in the recovery, you would expect faster growth, which we are not going. if we go over the cliff, we will go into recession. a couple of industries will feel the hurt more so than others. obviously, defense. and because these are long-term projects, those defense cuts will be felt well into 2013, into 2014. what's doing well? health care is doing
everything in obama care that obama didn't want you to focus on or think about, the 90% of his trillion dollar tax increase was pushed over until after he got himself safely re-elected. all those regulations you're now hearing about, ok, that are being talked about, those all hit after the election. we got four bad years of regulation taxes. he wants to add higher taxes to that. tea party two will dwarf tea party one if obama pushes us off the cliff. let's not pretend he isn't pushing us off...
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i take president obama for his word. what he said publicly at that press conference after his elections. they may have talked about some of those issues. i think they'll have an open channel of communication. >> what are republicans going to be looking for mitt romney to do in the future? >> probably raise more money. he had a great campaign team and staff around him. you know, who he supports in 2016 will matter. if he chooses to do that. >> okay, we have to take one more quick break. as we look at this good samaritan picture, the roundtable is going to weigh in on where they find hope in politics. that's next. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generation
i take president obama for his word. what he said publicly at that press conference after his elections. they may have talked about some of those issues. i think they'll have an open channel of communication. >> what are republicans going to be looking for mitt romney to do in the future? >> probably raise more money. he had a great campaign team and staff around him. you know, who he supports in 2016 will matter. if he chooses to do that. >> okay, we have to take one more...
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in 2008, then president elect obama met with john mccain at the obama campaign chicago's headquarters. vice president al gore and george w. bush had a private meeting after gore officially conceded the election. and president clinton gave the defeated bob dole a presidential medal of freedom just days before the second clinton inauguration. other rivals weren't as conciliatory. herbert hoover and franklin d. roosevelt reportedly sat in silence to the inauguration. walter mondale told politico he and ronald reagan never sat down for this kind of conversation. and is a former aide to john kerry told politico that kerry and george w. bush never spoke to one another after john kerry conceded the election. joining me now, pulitzer prize winning columnist for "the washington post" and msnbc analyst eugene erickson. and we have all -- i won't speak for you. i have -- i have more than once, i think, said we will keep in touch, let's keep in touch, to someone i did not then keep in touch with. i don't think i've ever been as phony about it, though, as these two guys today promising to stay in
in 2008, then president elect obama met with john mccain at the obama campaign chicago's headquarters. vice president al gore and george w. bush had a private meeting after gore officially conceded the election. and president clinton gave the defeated bob dole a presidential medal of freedom just days before the second clinton inauguration. other rivals weren't as conciliatory. herbert hoover and franklin d. roosevelt reportedly sat in silence to the inauguration. walter mondale told politico...
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. >>> coming up, president obama is not going to let the republicans forget that they lost the election because they campaigned to keep taxes low for the top income earners in america. >>> and mitt romney is looking for a new job and republicans are looking for a new leader and democrats might already have their next leader for the next presidential election. >>> and in the rewrite tonight, in praise of bob costas for saying what had to be said about the biggest thing that happened in the world of football this week. that's coming up. al one, sven gets great rewards for his small business! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! woo-hoo!!! so that's ten security gators, right? put them on my spark card! why settle for less? testing hot tar... great businesses deserve great rewards! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? here's your invoice. >>> grover norquist thinks that th
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there's always talk about the election and the winner of obama but the most important market factor in november wasn't necessarily the win of obama over romney but it assures that ben bernanke will be here for a while. all this talk about the fiscal cliff is peanuts compared to the importance of what is happening in monetary policy. >> that is correct and the fiscal stimulus not so important. ben bernankeemaintaining quantitative easing for prolonged period of time gives investors confidence as opposed to taking the punch bowl away with quantitative easing of the mitt romney as president so when the fed says they will keep interest rates relatively low we are absolutely low and some time in 2013 you have to believe that. liz: the journal says qe 4 is coming. he is coming up in a minute because he got a big scoop yesterday on q e 4. great to have you on the program. the dow 14,000, you are obviously the bull, what would get us there and in what period of time? >> nice to be on with you. i think when we look at the technicals here we are seeing a strong landscape of many individual stock
there's always talk about the election and the winner of obama but the most important market factor in november wasn't necessarily the win of obama over romney but it assures that ben bernanke will be here for a while. all this talk about the fiscal cliff is peanuts compared to the importance of what is happening in monetary policy. >> that is correct and the fiscal stimulus not so important. ben bernankeemaintaining quantitative easing for prolonged period of time gives investors...
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. >>> coming up, president obama is not going to let the republicans forget that they lost the election because they campaigned to keep taxes low for the top income earners in america. >>> and mitt romney is looking for a new job and republicans are looking for a new leader and democrats might already have their next leader for the next presidential election. >>> and in the rewrite tonight, in praise of bob costas for saying what had to be said about the biggest thing that happened in the world of football this week. that's coming up. [ loud party sounds ] hi, i'm ensure clear... clear, huh? i'm not juice or fancy water. i've got nine grams of protein. that's three times more than me! [ female announcer ] ensure clear. nine grams protein. zero fat. in blueberry/pomegranate and peach. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your p
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but blacks -- let's see. 95% of african-americans voted for president obama in this last election. what do you make of that? what does that tell you? >> well, the first thing we have to start looking at is what it's going to take for us to get the respect of both parties, and that comes down to us being a people that are principled over anything else. we have 95% of any race that would vote for a person or party, it kind of helps them to be taken for granted. at this point, what does the democratic party have to do to win our vote? actually, just be around. so it's time for us as a people to start putting our principles first. i think we should be ashamed of ourselves in certain areas, those who decided that the education is so important to them, they have a passion for it. why would you vote for a person who decides the union is much more important for them. >> in other words, school choice. i'm going to read from the notes. you tell me if i'm wrong. but this is tough stuff. you say in your notes, obama is the most aggressive anti-black policymaker in modern history. that's tough
but blacks -- let's see. 95% of african-americans voted for president obama in this last election. what do you make of that? what does that tell you? >> well, the first thing we have to start looking at is what it's going to take for us to get the respect of both parties, and that comes down to us being a people that are principled over anything else. we have 95% of any race that would vote for a person or party, it kind of helps them to be taken for granted. at this point, what does the...
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the reason is that we had an election. obama wanted to wash his hands now. je to do something or we will end up with a nasty regime in syria. >> bret: that is it for the panel but stay tuned for more analysis on the nuclear option. >> bret: some some of that has to be harry reid stopping by to block dinners of the mashed potatoes. mitch mcconnell is warning it could get worse. >> in the name of efficiency they would prevent the very possibility of compromise and threaten to make the disputes of the past few years look like mere pillow fights. >> he is
the reason is that we had an election. obama wanted to wash his hands now. je to do something or we will end up with a nasty regime in syria. >> bret: that is it for the panel but stay tuned for more analysis on the nuclear option. >> bret: some some of that has to be harry reid stopping by to block dinners of the mashed potatoes. mitch mcconnell is warning it could get worse. >> in the name of efficiency they would prevent the very possibility of compromise and threaten to...
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he has the opportunity to turn whatever package gets done into the obama growth plan or the obama deficit reduction plan and own it and embrace it, and he's not doing that. it is very typical of his leadership. >> the president feels that's why he was re-elected, because this is exactly what he's been running on, this program that he's now proposing here. >> as maria pointed out earlier, he was at $800 billion in revenue. we could with get to a deal quickly. >> why are we so focused on taxes and revenue? let's focus on spending cuts. what's your take on where to cut? seth, moments ago you said, you know, you can't put a knife to some of these entitlement programs. so what are we trying to do here? are we trying to get our arms around the debt and deficits? are we trying to create jobs? what's the goal of this whole charade? >> both. i wouldn't call it a charade. in the near-term, we're trying to keep this recovery going. that's why the payroll tax holiday extension is so needed and the small amount of new investments and unemployment insurance in the president's offer. that has to be bala
he has the opportunity to turn whatever package gets done into the obama growth plan or the obama deficit reduction plan and own it and embrace it, and he's not doing that. it is very typical of his leadership. >> the president feels that's why he was re-elected, because this is exactly what he's been running on, this program that he's now proposing here. >> as maria pointed out earlier, he was at $800 billion in revenue. we could with get to a deal quickly. >> why are we so...
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one was barack obama. the history of the republican party has always been that of freedom for all people and that's what we try to convey in our movie and we are very successfully doing that, "the runaway slave." that's the message. >> reverend, excuse me one second. >> mayor, there's been a lot of talk about how the hispanic vote has helped the president win votes like florida and nevada. but what's been less talked about is how the african-american vote gave the president higher totals in states like georgia as well as mississippi. when you hear what the reverend has to say in regard to the democratic party modern day, do you agree with what he's saying? >> if this weren't such a serious topic, his comments would be laughable. the president won a minority groups across the boar, not on latinos but asians. but he did it because all of these people are very smart and they understood who had their interests at heart and who didn't. what we know from the reverend's comments and other people's comments such a
one was barack obama. the history of the republican party has always been that of freedom for all people and that's what we try to convey in our movie and we are very successfully doing that, "the runaway slave." that's the message. >> reverend, excuse me one second. >> mayor, there's been a lot of talk about how the hispanic vote has helped the president win votes like florida and nevada. but what's been less talked about is how the african-american vote gave the...
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you've had hurricane sandy, you've had the re-election of barack obama, and you have people realizing that not only is it their second amendment right, but they may be in a situation where they need a firearm to protect themselves. and they're coming to that realization, and it's just caused an uptick and a spike, and last friday, you know, on black friday it was through the roof. >> reporter: according to gallup, 43% of women surveyed last year reported owning a gun which is a new high. the nra reports that over the last four o or five years there's been an exponential increase in women participating in safety classes, licensing programs and women-only hunting programs. some women feel safer just knowing how to use guns. >> i felt like if we were going to have guns in the home, that i should know how the handle them, know if it's loaded, you know? i mean, there's going to be guns in the house, i can't have something that i'm afraid of and don't know what to -- you know, it's dangerous. so i took a class, and i found that i really enjoyed it. >> reporter: and she even knows a few of h
you've had hurricane sandy, you've had the re-election of barack obama, and you have people realizing that not only is it their second amendment right, but they may be in a situation where they need a firearm to protect themselves. and they're coming to that realization, and it's just caused an uptick and a spike, and last friday, you know, on black friday it was through the roof. >> reporter: according to gallup, 43% of women surveyed last year reported owning a gun which is a new high....
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i said -- >> well, hold on for you to say that president obama won the election. remember you sat in the house of representatives for many years and republicans controlled that house. when democrats controlled that house, they flex their muscles. the republicans in the house have a constitutional obligation to make sure we get a fair compromise. speaker boehner wants that. that is what he is fighting for. >> i think the president does, too. and the republicans can't expect that after he was re-elected on the basis that the rich get to pay a little bit more that the president -- >> i didn't mean that. i didn't mean that. >> eric: okay. prediction, end it there. prediction we won't be going over the fiscal cliff. >> i think we will not go over the tis call cliff and it will be worked out by christmas eve. maybe if not before. >> eric: we can't something in our stockings for that. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> eric: jamie? >> jamie: fox news extreme weather alert. folks in california, well, you want to pay attention to this, because you know you have had storms
i said -- >> well, hold on for you to say that president obama won the election. remember you sat in the house of representatives for many years and republicans controlled that house. when democrats controlled that house, they flex their muscles. the republicans in the house have a constitutional obligation to make sure we get a fair compromise. speaker boehner wants that. that is what he is fighting for. >> i think the president does, too. and the republicans can't expect that...
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voting again for president obama and electing a democratic senator. virginia is increasingly a moderate state. we're not in texas, my home state. if kucuccinelli were running in texas, arizona, even in georgia, these types of politics wouldn't just hurt him, they'd help him, but he's not. he's running in virginia, the land of whole food moms and dads. but at a broader level i find the cuccinelli race interesting because i think it might be a precursor to what we may see in the midterms and perhaps in the 2016 presidential election. we already hear some rumblings about perry getting back into the race, santorum -- >> oh, lord help us, no. please. >> i swear. >> please, no, not the return of rick perry. you cannot be serious. >> i swear to you. >> oh, lord. okay, jimmy, mr. cuccinelli, he sued over obama care, lost. sued the epa, lost. is there anything more dangerous to a political party than a leader who consistently picks fight he loses? >> how many times do you have to lose to be kaumd a loser. >> right. >> let's be honest about this, you have -- an
voting again for president obama and electing a democratic senator. virginia is increasingly a moderate state. we're not in texas, my home state. if kucuccinelli were running in texas, arizona, even in georgia, these types of politics wouldn't just hurt him, they'd help him, but he's not. he's running in virginia, the land of whole food moms and dads. but at a broader level i find the cuccinelli race interesting because i think it might be a precursor to what we may see in the midterms and...
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in 2010 you found yourself on the wrong end of a wave election. people blame barack obama and the state of the economy, health care, what have you. now in 2012 you come back and you beat the guy who beat you and you're back, soon to be, in congress. tell me what lessons you learned in 2012? what was in your mind in a swing state of new hampshire the 2012 election about and what does it carry forward? >> well, first, let me say in 2010 there was a lot of misinformation about health care and about other issues we were voting on. and so people were understandably frightened and now as the health care law is being carried out they recognize that this is a very consumer friendly law. and so that has changed. the issues in this past election the proper role of government, and i was running against the tea partier who wanted to shut down so much of government functions and people recognize that they really do want to have good government. but they do want efficient government and they want to make sure they're watching out for their tax dollars. they do
in 2010 you found yourself on the wrong end of a wave election. people blame barack obama and the state of the economy, health care, what have you. now in 2012 you come back and you beat the guy who beat you and you're back, soon to be, in congress. tell me what lessons you learned in 2012? what was in your mind in a swing state of new hampshire the 2012 election about and what does it carry forward? >> well, first, let me say in 2010 there was a lot of misinformation about health care...
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just to remind folks, take a listen to president obama during his first re-election press conference talking about mitt romney. >> he presented some ideas during the course of the campaign that i actually agree with. and so it would be interesting to talk to him about something like that. there may be ideas that he has with respect to jobs and growth that can help middle class families that i want to hear. >> so this lunch today, is it just common courtesy or might he have something in mind for mitt romney? >> i think it's potential that he has something in mind that he wants mitt romney to do. it's very unlikely any type of formal position either in his cabinet or otherwise. i mean, both sides are sort of projecting they don't expect a whole lot of news to actually come out of this meeting which would mean it's more of a symbolic gesture, a time for these guys to get together privately. >> well, robert, an op-ed in the "washington post" says, obama should convene a presidential commission on national health costs to be chaired by romney and filled with leaders from every part of the
just to remind folks, take a listen to president obama during his first re-election press conference talking about mitt romney. >> he presented some ideas during the course of the campaign that i actually agree with. and so it would be interesting to talk to him about something like that. there may be ideas that he has with respect to jobs and growth that can help middle class families that i want to hear. >> so this lunch today, is it just common courtesy or might he have something...
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president obama's re-election means that taxes for upper income earners are going up one way or another. the question is how republicans should handle this reality. congressman cole, as you heard and a number of other conservatives, they believe they should give this one to the president not because they want to, but because they have to. republican leaders though, they disagree. >> i told tom earlier in our conference meeting that i disagreed with him. it will hurt small businesses, it will hurt our economy, that is why this is not the right approach. >> you can agree or disagree with that position. however, keeping them honest, house speaker john boehner and others have been trying to play down the fact that president obama and others got a significant boost from voters. >> in politics there is the temptation from those who win office to think that they have a mandate to do what they will. >> i don't think so because they re-elected the house republicans. so whether people intended or not, we have divided government. >> the american people made clear that there is no mandate for raisi
president obama's re-election means that taxes for upper income earners are going up one way or another. the question is how republicans should handle this reality. congressman cole, as you heard and a number of other conservatives, they believe they should give this one to the president not because they want to, but because they have to. republican leaders though, they disagree. >> i told tom earlier in our conference meeting that i disagreed with him. it will hurt small businesses, it...
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romney and obama are sitting down for their first post election meeting. we have more on the meeting. what's the topic today? >> today at 12:30 it will be president obama and mitt romney in a room by themselves for a lunch that was arranged about a week after the election. there won't be any staff sitting with them. we are told the white house called and mitt romney accepted this information. romney aids say he has noah agenda. it's just going to be two adversaries sitting down for a social lunch. >> the president said that there are aspects of governor romney's record and governor romney's ideas that could be very helpful. governor romney did a terrific job running the state. the requested reorganization authority from the congress to do just that. >> we haven't heard from mitt romney since he came up short on leblgs day. we have seen him pumping his own gas and riding roller-coaster in california went viral. today's lunch comes a little over 6 weeks after the two men were basically at each other's throat arguing about the administration's response to the
romney and obama are sitting down for their first post election meeting. we have more on the meeting. what's the topic today? >> today at 12:30 it will be president obama and mitt romney in a room by themselves for a lunch that was arranged about a week after the election. there won't be any staff sitting with them. we are told the white house called and mitt romney accepted this information. romney aids say he has noah agenda. it's just going to be two adversaries sitting down for a...
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and say we need a bailout, we did vote for president obama in the last election. give us a bailout. they you think that will happen? >> and all too real possibility. the governor refuses to rule out asking or accepting future federal bailout and a freeze keep sitting on our hands doing nothing the problem will get worse and that will be a federal bailout. and ask taxpayers of other states, folks who have their act together to fix our politicians's mess. >> i have been saying for a long time i think a bailout request will come. maybe they are denying it but i think it is going to come. in california same situation, ill. same situation. both of those that -- voted for president obama, a bailout request is coming but absent that, what plan could they put in place in illinois to deal with this? got any ideas? >> it is simple, we have to follow the lead of the private sector and transition to the fine contribution plan. pensions are broke. trying to fix our system would be like bailing out the titanic with a dixie cup. you have to do right by state workers and the best way to do that is
and say we need a bailout, we did vote for president obama in the last election. give us a bailout. they you think that will happen? >> and all too real possibility. the governor refuses to rule out asking or accepting future federal bailout and a freeze keep sitting on our hands doing nothing the problem will get worse and that will be a federal bailout. and ask taxpayers of other states, folks who have their act together to fix our politicians's mess. >> i have been saying for a...
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speaker, before the election, you were asked whether if it obama won taxes would have to go up. and you sounded like you opposed that. now you're acknowledging that they will. >> the day after the election, i came here and made it clear that republicans would put revenue on the table. as a way to begin to move the process to get this resolved. >> right. so my question is, what message do you have for people who look at the negotiating division, and believe that it's inevitable that you'll have to accept some compromise on tax rates? >> the revenue is on the table. but revenue was only on the table if there were serious spending cuts as part of this agreement. it has to be part of the agreement. we have a debt crisis. we're spending too much. and while we're willing to put revenue on the table, we have to recognize, it's the spending that's out of control. >> mr. speaker. roughly what size spending cuts do you think it would take to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff, and do you think that at least the promise of spending cuts has to be included in this level deal at this time? >>
speaker, before the election, you were asked whether if it obama won taxes would have to go up. and you sounded like you opposed that. now you're acknowledging that they will. >> the day after the election, i came here and made it clear that republicans would put revenue on the table. as a way to begin to move the process to get this resolved. >> right. so my question is, what message do you have for people who look at the negotiating division, and believe that it's inevitable that...
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speaker, before the election, you were asked whether if obama won taxes would have to go up. and you've made it sound like you would oppose that. now you're acknowledging that they will. >> the day after the election, i came here and made it clear that republicans would put revenue on the table as a way to begin to move the process to get this resolved. >> so my question is, what message do you have for people who look at the negotiating position and see that it's -- or believe that it's inevitable that you'll have to accept some compromise on tax rates? >> revenue is on the table, but revenue is only on the table if there were serious spending cuts as part of this agreement. it has to be part of the agreement. we have a debt crisis. we're spending too much. and while we're willing to put revenue on the table, we have to recognize it's the spending that's out of control. >> mr. speak, roughly what size spending cuts do you think it would take to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff and do you think that at least the promise of spending cuts has to be included in this level of dea
speaker, before the election, you were asked whether if obama won taxes would have to go up. and you've made it sound like you would oppose that. now you're acknowledging that they will. >> the day after the election, i came here and made it clear that republicans would put revenue on the table as a way to begin to move the process to get this resolved. >> so my question is, what message do you have for people who look at the negotiating position and see that it's -- or believe that...
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over government in the last election. he says they didn't make it. ted cruz says that the real problem with mitt romney's disastrous 47% quote was that it accepted the notion that some people are rich. some people are poor. and that's how the pie looks. and then you redistribute among them. he's saying no. true conservatism -- and we've heard joe say this around the table -- >> absolutely. >> -- true conservatism means that everybody can do anything and that the republican party's missed that message. that's what they need to turn to. >> it's going to be interesting to see how they do that and if ted cruz becomes sort of the force in this. what do you think? what's your gut, mike? >> he's already offering himself -- he clearly wants to play that role. >> yeah. >> he said last night, i'm something that's not supposed to exist, a hispanic republican. so ted cruz is one of the most interesting parts of this reinvention of the republican party. another part of it, the new emphasis on immigration. >> yes. >> the effort to reac
over government in the last election. he says they didn't make it. ted cruz says that the real problem with mitt romney's disastrous 47% quote was that it accepted the notion that some people are rich. some people are poor. and that's how the pie looks. and then you redistribute among them. he's saying no. true conservatism -- and we've heard joe say this around the table -- >> absolutely. >> -- true conservatism means that everybody can do anything and that the republican party's...
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you say the elect kctrical grid slowly improving. would any of the changes we're talking about had a different effect on what people in the northeast went through as a result of hurricane sando or are we talking about apples and oranges? >> no, it has a difference. president had $11 billion for a smarter grid in his much maligned stimulus bill in 2009. as a result, for instance, in the washington, d.c. area, the utility was able to get just about everybody their power back in two days because with a smart grid, and that's essentially mixing up modern information technology with that ancient electrical grid we've got, but with smart meters and digital routers and sensors. they were able to figure out where the problems were on their grid, route power around it, and without having to send a million trucks out to try to figure out where the lines were down and without having to send meter readers to see who didn't have power. they could do it just about automatically, and they were able to get things rolling within two days. >> you're t
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coming out for gay marriage that would hurt him in the election. the opposite happened. even within the african-american community which is very religious and which has a high number of evangelicals you've seen a movement in favor of gay marriage. >> and in fact a lot of the same sex advocates thought maryland wouldn't be among the states. they thought it would be maine and washington but not maryland. maryland wouldn't do it at the ballot box because it's about 30% african-american. maryland did it. >> i'm curious why you think president bill clinton since he has the freedom hillary doesn't, why hasn't he apologized for this stain on his record? >> in 2009 before obama, not a very expansive or hugely heartfelt way, said i'm now for marriage equality. again it was not a big statement. i think he feels like i did that, what more do i have to do. i think doma is such a nasty bit of legislation, codified bigotry, it calls for more robust than that. >> the important divergence that frank is identifying between the two democratic presidents. president o
coming out for gay marriage that would hurt him in the election. the opposite happened. even within the african-american community which is very religious and which has a high number of evangelicals you've seen a movement in favor of gay marriage. >> and in fact a lot of the same sex advocates thought maryland wouldn't be among the states. they thought it would be maine and washington but not maryland. maryland wouldn't do it at the ballot box because it's about 30% african-american....
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speaker, before the election you were asked whether if obama won, taxes would have to go up. you've made it sound like you would oppose that. now you've -- you're acknowledging that they will. >> the day after the election, i came here and made it clear that republicans would put revenue on the table. as a way to begin to move the process to get this resolved. >> right. so my question is, what -- what message do you have for people who look at the negotiating position and see that it's -- or believe that it's inevitable that you'll have to accept some compromise like the actual rates? >> revenue is on the table. but revenue was only on the table if there were serious spending cuts as part of this agreement. it has to be part of the agreement. we have a debt crisis. we're spending too much. and while we're willing to put revenue on the table, we have to recognize, it's the spending that's out of control. >> mr. speaker, roughly what size spending cuts do you think it would take to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff, and do you think that at least the promise of spending cuts has
speaker, before the election you were asked whether if obama won, taxes would have to go up. you've made it sound like you would oppose that. now you've -- you're acknowledging that they will. >> the day after the election, i came here and made it clear that republicans would put revenue on the table. as a way to begin to move the process to get this resolved. >> right. so my question is, what -- what message do you have for people who look at the negotiating position and see that...
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>> so obama created this whole fiscal cliff for an election issue. the amazing thing is no one talked about this during the campaign. it was the day after the election that suddenly d.c. and the d.c. press was abuzz about the fiscal cliff. this wasn't a campaign issue. no one even talked about it. >> stephanie: right. >> the idea that this is all obama's fault. it has nothing to do with the $3 trillion war paid for with taxes. >> stephanie: eric boehlert remains in the sidecar. we continue with right-wing world next on "the stephanie miller show." >> announcer: it's really weird but it's also the coolest thing i've ever heard in my whole life. >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show." that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. ♪ here she come now say mony mony ♪ >> stephanie: oh you didn't put in the other part. okay. >> i like our s.e.c. license. >> stephanie: 1-800-steph-12 the
>> so obama created this whole fiscal cliff for an election issue. the amazing thing is no one talked about this during the campaign. it was the day after the election that suddenly d.c. and the d.c. press was abuzz about the fiscal cliff. this wasn't a campaign issue. no one even talked about it. >> stephanie: right. >> the idea that this is all obama's fault. it has nothing to do with the $3 trillion war paid for with taxes. >> stephanie: eric boehlert remains in the...
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and it is -- that's what this election decided it is not going to go away. so any republican idea about how maybe there will be a better way to do it or maybe we shouldn't have done this, those ideas are obsolete. >> let me ask you something, you are forever and have been a supporter of no tax increases and you wrote an op-ed about grover norquist. which is very nice for grover because no one else is being all that affectionate about him. i'm not asking about whether taxes should go up. but is the tax pledge, is that kind of behavior standing in the way of reinvention of the republican party? >> i don't think so. i think it's just the opposite. the reason that the left and some of your friends in the media have really, you know, ganged up on grover norquist, they have really been extraordinarily hostile in their attacks against him, is that this has really been the fortress of the republican party. that no tax position has been the defining issue for the republicans. i still think by the way it's a winning issue. americans don't like taxes. they do believe t
and it is -- that's what this election decided it is not going to go away. so any republican idea about how maybe there will be a better way to do it or maybe we shouldn't have done this, those ideas are obsolete. >> let me ask you something, you are forever and have been a supporter of no tax increases and you wrote an op-ed about grover norquist. which is very nice for grover because no one else is being all that affectionate about him. i'm not asking about whether taxes should go up....
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here he is. >> they won the election. they must have forgotten that republicans continue to hold the majority in the house, but the president's idea of negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. >> objection. >> we need to find common ground and find it quickly. >> oh shut up. >> stephanie: common ground -- >> common ground do what i tell you to do. >> stephanie: how about the same thing you just -- >> yeah. >> stephanie: tom [ inaudible ] republican of oklahoma. >> i'm certain if this is not good enough for the white house, we will go over the fiscal cliff. this is a compromise on taxes -- >> stephanie: no it's not. and the aforementioned drama queen, lindsay gram. >> i'm pretty sure we have going over the cliff. >> good heavens! >> stephanie: oh, my god! i think we're going over the [ inaudible ] -- [ screaming ] >> stephanie: thank got i still have tara. >> are you implying that lindsay graham has warn pearls in his life? >> stephanie: no! >> his real name is ashley. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: frankly he does give a d
here he is. >> they won the election. they must have forgotten that republicans continue to hold the majority in the house, but the president's idea of negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. >> objection. >> we need to find common ground and find it quickly. >> oh shut up. >> stephanie: common ground -- >> common ground do what i tell you to do. >> stephanie: how about the same thing you just -- >> yeah. >> stephanie: tom [ inaudible ]...
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everyone else in the system has an election and obama doesn't. so as his capital goes down and his vision gets wider, historically everyone else is getting narrower to that -- it not even to election day in '14 but to primary day. >> with all that said, lee, you look at the deal, as michael said, the president came out big. not only does he want taxes to go up on the wealthy but stimulus spending, the power to raise the debt ceiling. where is the middle ground? who blinks on these questions of taxes? >> everyone is doubling down and waiting for the other side to blink first. that's why we'll push this. this could be all choreographed. we don't know what's happening with the side conversations. both sides will probably give. everyone knows that will be the case. the president has a lot of leverage. he, of course, doesn't have absolute leverage but has more than he had. learned a lesson in 2001. he's coming out of the gate with strong rhetoric. >> michael? >> if you took grover out of the equation and lowered the flame, how long do you think it wou
everyone else in the system has an election and obama doesn't. so as his capital goes down and his vision gets wider, historically everyone else is getting narrower to that -- it not even to election day in '14 but to primary day. >> with all that said, lee, you look at the deal, as michael said, the president came out big. not only does he want taxes to go up on the wealthy but stimulus spending, the power to raise the debt ceiling. where is the middle ground? who blinks on these...
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obama and his allies are less willing to look at these benefits programs after his election last month. >> yeah. >> stephanie: obama possesses far more leverage than he did in the budget talks with boner last year. here we go again, right. >> you act like you won or something. >> stephanie: okay. all right. rhone in chicago. >> caller: hi, stephanie. first time caller so i'm glad i get a chance to get in and talk with you. >> stephanie: okay. >> caller: so many things to talk about, but i wanted to talk about the extremism that i see in the republican party. for me i'm an infantry officer, a software engineer. i have gone from voting republican and i lose myself as moderate republican, and conservative democrat somewhere in that -- >> stephanie: in the nuggety center. >> caller: yeah. the way this election has gone it has turned me very much to the left. the way the republicans have acted, they are turned me off from their party all together. >> stephanie: we welcome you into the soft cocoon of socialism. [♪ mysterious music ♪] >> stephanie: go ahead. >> caller: but the democratic
obama and his allies are less willing to look at these benefits programs after his election last month. >> yeah. >> stephanie: obama possesses far more leverage than he did in the budget talks with boner last year. here we go again, right. >> you act like you won or something. >> stephanie: okay. all right. rhone in chicago. >> caller: hi, stephanie. first time caller so i'm glad i get a chance to get in and talk with you. >> stephanie: okay. >> caller:...
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overwhelming support from latino voters lifted president obama to victory on election day. this is part of the reason latinos voted democrat. the president took action after years of failed attempts at reforming immigration. in june, president obama issued a directive to end the deportation of military students and veterans. 64% of americans agreed with the policy. independents backed it more than 2-1. the hispanic pew center estimates. the president's directive affected 1.4 million people. that's only 12% of the 11 million undocumented immigrants in the united states. today, members of the caucus spelled out their thoughts about permanent change. >> america's immigrants have every right to feel anger about how they have been treated, ignored, lied to and ridiculed. we need to set that anger aside. >> we will find out if the republicans can set aside their differences or if they will disappoint a vital and important block. i am joined tonight by congressman luis gutierrez. good to have you with us tonight. >> thanks, ed. >> your caucus laid out nine principles for immigrati
overwhelming support from latino voters lifted president obama to victory on election day. this is part of the reason latinos voted democrat. the president took action after years of failed attempts at reforming immigration. in june, president obama issued a directive to end the deportation of military students and veterans. 64% of americans agreed with the policy. independents backed it more than 2-1. the hispanic pew center estimates. the president's directive affected 1.4 million people....
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so the challenge on the republican side, and it is tough, is folks like kevin mccarthy did get elected. and in his district, his no-tax pledge worked for him. these guys are in a very tough spot because they know at the end of the day they're going to have to raise these taxes. but doing so will cause an immense amount of political pain. that's why in my view, it's probably likely that we won't get a deal before january 1st. but on january 3rd, the senate sends a bill over. where now we're voting on a bill to lower taxes. the norquist pledge becomes irrelevant. in fact, they comply with the norquist pledge by voting for a bill that would provide tax relief for 98% of americans. so i just think this is a very difficult political situation on the republican side. you know, the speaker clearly knows that revenues have to go up. and he doesn't have the leverage now. and we're back into brinksmanship politics. but bottom line, the cliff is really much more a slope, and we can act on this ideally before january 1st. but because of political reasons largely on the republican side, it may be a
so the challenge on the republican side, and it is tough, is folks like kevin mccarthy did get elected. and in his district, his no-tax pledge worked for him. these guys are in a very tough spot because they know at the end of the day they're going to have to raise these taxes. but doing so will cause an immense amount of political pain. that's why in my view, it's probably likely that we won't get a deal before january 1st. but on january 3rd, the senate sends a bill over. where now we're...
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they re-elected him. but the white house has said that the rates don't have to return to clinton era levels. obama's nemesis as he often told us are millionaires and billionaires. so why not urge that the higher tax rates be applied only to those with incomes of $1 million and not the couples earning more than $250,000. now, i'm talking pure politics, not equity in this case. can they hang their hat on the fact, okay, you're against millionaires, we'll take back their cut for the millionaires? below that they have to get the deal. >> the problem with this is chuck schumer and other senate democrats tried to offer this to republicans last time. remember the last time we did this they rejected it. >> it works for them now. they can say all we want is the schumer deal. >> right now they don't have the leverage to get the schumer deal. they rejected the schumer deal. they don't have the leverage to get it. >> here we disagree. i think they may have a case. if the bogey man is the millionaire -- >> i think tha
they re-elected him. but the white house has said that the rates don't have to return to clinton era levels. obama's nemesis as he often told us are millionaires and billionaires. so why not urge that the higher tax rates be applied only to those with incomes of $1 million and not the couples earning more than $250,000. now, i'm talking pure politics, not equity in this case. can they hang their hat on the fact, okay, you're against millionaires, we'll take back their cut for the millionaires?...
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>>> plus, the election may be over, but president obama's lead over mitt romney keeps growing as the final numbers continue to come in. it's just one of the things we thought you should know. ♪ if it wasn't for you ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove [ male announcer ] introducing the celebration diamond collection. zales is the diamond store. let love shine. now's a good time to think about your options. are you looking for a plan that really meets your needs? and your budget? as you probably know, medicare only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you in out-of-pocket medical costs every year. call today to request a free decision guide. with this type of plan, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients... plus, there are no networks, and you'll never need a referral to see a sp
>>> plus, the election may be over, but president obama's lead over mitt romney keeps growing as the final numbers continue to come in. it's just one of the things we thought you should know. ♪ if it wasn't for you ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove [ male announcer ] introducing the celebration diamond collection. zales is the diamond store. let love shine. now's a good time to think about your options. are you looking for a plan that really meets your needs?...
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obama won this election by three points. 95% of republicans in the house won by a larger margin. he has a mandate, they have a mandate, and they have offered to raise revenues, which is to raise taxes. what obama is after is one mark indicates -- he wants to make a political point that republicans are the party of the millionaires. if you look at it as it will attempt to fix our issues, if you do it the taxes he wants, racing on the top 2%, it brings in 8 cents on the dollar, and what it means is that the deficit will go from $1.10 trillion to $1.02 trillion. that is his solution to our fiscal problem. . >> i will point out numbers, arithmetic. the republicans lost the house race, lost the majority of americans voting and a house. they lost two seats in the senate. mitt romney got 47% of the popular vote. that, ladies and gentlemen, is a devastating defeat. >> republicans hold the house and the house -- >> lost a majority of the popular vote -- >> under our constitution, there is a house, senate, and a presidency. >> susan rice's never-ending sunday talk show nightmare. >> i cont
obama won this election by three points. 95% of republicans in the house won by a larger margin. he has a mandate, they have a mandate, and they have offered to raise revenues, which is to raise taxes. what obama is after is one mark indicates -- he wants to make a political point that republicans are the party of the millionaires. if you look at it as it will attempt to fix our issues, if you do it the taxes he wants, racing on the top 2%, it brings in 8 cents on the dollar, and what it means...
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the week after the election, president obama was asked do you have to have the higher rates or could we have deductions and credits and he said he was open to negotiations. three weeks later, after thanksgiving, he shows up and all of a sudden there's a line in the sand on rates that had come out of nowhere, so the president seems to be moving the goal posts in a deliberate effort, i don't know, to extract something, to push people over the fiscal cliff. something's going on and it's not clear because he's not where he used to be. he's quadrupled the amount of taxes he demands. he now has to have rates instead of just numbers. it's going to be interesting what he is doing but it appears he's not trying to come to any agreement. his position is one that the senate, the democratic senate, has rejected in the past. >> robert reish, 60% of americans according to a new abc news/"the washington post" poll believes they should raise taxes on those over $250,000 a year. presumably president obama has seen these polls. so if there is a fiscal cliff and we go over it, the american public are l
the week after the election, president obama was asked do you have to have the higher rates or could we have deductions and credits and he said he was open to negotiations. three weeks later, after thanksgiving, he shows up and all of a sudden there's a line in the sand on rates that had come out of nowhere, so the president seems to be moving the goal posts in a deliberate effort, i don't know, to extract something, to push people over the fiscal cliff. something's going on and it's not clear...
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and it is not just that obama won an election. he has often compromised on his own. he has offered plans that tracked where he thought the final compromise would end up. the white house figured that by being list is us to they would win goodwill own the other side and even if they didn't, the media would come to their side realizing they sought compromise in the same place and been rebuffed by republicans. the white house does not believe that any more. probably the key lesson they took from the last couple of years is this. do not negotiate with yourself. if republicans want it cut medicare, let them propose the cuts. if they want it raise revenue through tax reform as opposed to marginal rates, let them tell you with what they want it eliminate. if they want deeper cuts to discretionary spending, let them give you a number. above all, if they don't like your policies, let them propose their own. that way if the white house does give in to hire demands, the republicans would feel like they got one over on the prose. they won one. i think is a genuinely important pri
and it is not just that obama won an election. he has often compromised on his own. he has offered plans that tracked where he thought the final compromise would end up. the white house figured that by being list is us to they would win goodwill own the other side and even if they didn't, the media would come to their side realizing they sought compromise in the same place and been rebuffed by republicans. the white house does not believe that any more. probably the key lesson they took from...
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out saying oh, barack obama, he bought votes, i would have won the election if he wouldn't have bought the votes. that's the logo of a guy who just makes excuses. >> so between the change of heart and all the interviews he's doing and the aspiring acting career, some people are saying that it's possible, just possible, that eric is doing all of this just to get attention. >> they couldn't be more correct. of course. who gets a tattoo on their face and isn't looking for attention? >> very thought provoking although perhaps not universally true. like maybe if somebody got a tattoo on their face that said i'm shy. in any event, if it was attention he was looking for, he definitely got it although the romney tattoo will soon fade into nothing but a cheeky memory, eric's place on the "ridiculist," that i promise you, is permanent. that does it for us. see you again one hour from now. erin burnett's "outfront" starts now. >>> 28 days away, what does it take for a deal? and the use of chemical weapons will bring an immediate reaction from the community. our panel, we'll ask them if the united
out saying oh, barack obama, he bought votes, i would have won the election if he wouldn't have bought the votes. that's the logo of a guy who just makes excuses. >> so between the change of heart and all the interviews he's doing and the aspiring acting career, some people are saying that it's possible, just possible, that eric is doing all of this just to get attention. >> they couldn't be more correct. of course. who gets a tattoo on their face and isn't looking for attention?...
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>> well, on the very day that they elected obama by a few percentage points, the exit polls also asked, would you like to raise taxes to reduce the deficit, 63% said no. 86% of the ads run for obama were personal attacks on romney. he won a stunning mandate to not be romney. he did not run on the basis he was going to do massive new spending and the kind of tax increases, $1.6 trillion that he's now talking about. and at the same time that obama was elected president, the republican house, which had twice voted for a real budget -- remember, the president's budget he claims he has a mandate for was put up before the house and the democrats all voted against it. in the senate, the democrats didn't want to have anything to do with it. it's a little hard to argue, he had a mandate for something the rest of his party ran away from. >> well -- >> did not run ads on those issues. >> and, of course, it was a bit more complicated than that. but to your point about the exit polls, it's true, most people said that they didn't want tax increases to solve the deficit. what they said -- the majorit
>> well, on the very day that they elected obama by a few percentage points, the exit polls also asked, would you like to raise taxes to reduce the deficit, 63% said no. 86% of the ads run for obama were personal attacks on romney. he won a stunning mandate to not be romney. he did not run on the basis he was going to do massive new spending and the kind of tax increases, $1.6 trillion that he's now talking about. and at the same time that obama was elected president, the republican...
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that is an election, popular at the end of the year, certainly give president obama a lot of clout right now. you can disagree or agree with the policy. that is for you to decide. republican tom cole of oklahoma happens to disagree strongly. at the same time, he recognizes the political reality that all tax cuts will expire on january one, and no one wants to raise taxes on what would amount to 98% of all the taxpayers. >> in my view, we agree we're not going to raise taxes on people that make more than $250,000, we should just take them out of this discuss right now. continue to fight against any rate increases and continue to fight for a much bigger deal. >> congressman cole joins us, the staunchly conservative editorial page of "the wall street journal is on board now. president obama's re-election means that taxes for upper income earners are going up one way or another. the question is how republicans should handle this reality. congressman cole as you heard, a number of other conservatives, they believe they should give this one to the president. not because they want to, but becau
that is an election, popular at the end of the year, certainly give president obama a lot of clout right now. you can disagree or agree with the policy. that is for you to decide. republican tom cole of oklahoma happens to disagree strongly. at the same time, he recognizes the political reality that all tax cuts will expire on january one, and no one wants to raise taxes on what would amount to 98% of all the taxpayers. >> in my view, we agree we're not going to raise taxes on people that...